What do you think about them?

DyloniusFunk crossposted an article from Deadspin, but as crosspostings go, it's impossible to have a Groupthink-specific conversation. So go give DF and Deadspin your unique clicks. I'll wait.

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Alright, now that you've read about how there's a dress code somewhere (it really doesn't matter where since this happens somewhere in every town and city everywhere), what do you think?

Given that many of these dress codes disallow what many consider to be fashions that young minority (read: black) men wear, it can come off as racist. By specifically saying 'don't wear clothes young black men wear more than any other demographic', it's completely fair to read these rules as bigoted.

That said, many non-black men (and/or women) wear clothes in this style.


In Regards to Dress Codes

Bieber.


Many black men also choose to not dress in this style as well. These dress codes aren't conclusively disallowing any one particular group.


In Regards to Dress Codes

Mos Def.


What gets me is that in order to meet dress codes, all you have to do is pull up your pants and wear a shirt that fits you decently. No one is saying that you need to order from the LL Bean catalog to get in. You could even readjust your pants after you get in, I suppose. If you asked low-pants/oversized-shirt-wearing people to dress up nicely for, say, a wedding, they would be wearing something like a well fitted suit. So it's not like people don't know that baggy pants aren't in the realm of 'dress casual' fashion.

I have seen situations where dress codes are too strict. I read about some meet and greet between regular people and members of the press. The catch was that you had to look businessy. If you're a low income person and haven't had the strict need to own anything businessy, then you're prohibited from going. That's a problem. Not allowing a person to engage with their communities because they can't afford to look some random way isn't right.

I'm not sure if asking people to hike up their pants by a few inches fits into the same category.

If a dress code isn't racist or otherwise actively prohibitive, it would seem that the issue is with venues being able to choose what works and doesn't work with their dress codes. I personally don't have a problem with this, though I'm white, cis-het and have enough clothes in my closet that I could probably make most dress codes work.

Thoughts?